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		<title>By: How Relevant is a PMP? &#171; Papercut Edge</title>
		<link>http://edge.papercutpm.com/is-the-pmp-losing-its-value/comment-page-1/#comment-1073</link>
		<dc:creator>How Relevant is a PMP? &#171; Papercut Edge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2011 13:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a year ago, I wrote an article called &#8220;Is the PMP Losing Its Value&#8220;. To date, that article remains the most commented-on piece on this [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a year ago, I wrote an article called &#8220;Is the PMP Losing Its Value&#8220;. To date, that article remains the most commented-on piece on this [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Naybour</title>
		<link>http://edge.papercutpm.com/is-the-pmp-losing-its-value/comment-page-1/#comment-1060</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Naybour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 18:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi

The PMP (and the other certifications such as APMP and PRINCE2) are just part of a development road map for project managers. They are basically evaluations of knowledge, with requirements for experience in the case of PMP. These should be seen as just part of an integrated development roadmap for project managers from a foundation to those capable of delivering the most complex projects. This develop journey is a lifetime of learning not just a 35 hour course and a quick exam. may organisations implement this career path development as a Project Academy. These combine certification with continuous professional development and in-work place assignments. For more advice on how to develop your own project management academy you can download our white paper from http://www.parallelprojecttraining.com/project-academy/developing-a-professional-project-management-academy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi</p>
<p>The PMP (and the other certifications such as APMP and PRINCE2) are just part of a development road map for project managers. They are basically evaluations of knowledge, with requirements for experience in the case of PMP. These should be seen as just part of an integrated development roadmap for project managers from a foundation to those capable of delivering the most complex projects. This develop journey is a lifetime of learning not just a 35 hour course and a quick exam. may organisations implement this career path development as a Project Academy. These combine certification with continuous professional development and in-work place assignments. For more advice on how to develop your own project management academy you can download our white paper from <a href="http://www.parallelprojecttraining.com/project-academy/developing-a-professional-project-management-academy" rel="nofollow">http://www.parallelprojecttraining.com/project-academy/developing-a-professional-project-management-academy</a></p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Crane</title>
		<link>http://edge.papercutpm.com/is-the-pmp-losing-its-value/comment-page-1/#comment-996</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff Crane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Mar 2011 01:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;*cough*&lt;/em&gt; money grab &lt;em&gt;*cough*&lt;/em&gt; Er...I mean...I&#039;m sure it&#039;s a very legitimate program. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>*cough*</em> money grab <em>*cough*</em> Er&#8230;I mean&#8230;I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s a very legitimate program. <img src='http://edge.papercutpm.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Robert Kelly, PMP</title>
		<link>http://edge.papercutpm.com/is-the-pmp-losing-its-value/comment-page-1/#comment-995</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Kelly, PMP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Mar 2011 01:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a follow-on to this discussion, I would like to see what folks think about the new PMI Registered Consultant Program.

To me it seems like you submit a 1-pager on your firms experience, be in business for 5 years, and send a nice check for $1500USD.  

Thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a follow-on to this discussion, I would like to see what folks think about the new PMI Registered Consultant Program.</p>
<p>To me it seems like you submit a 1-pager on your firms experience, be in business for 5 years, and send a nice check for $1500USD.  </p>
<p>Thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: Project Management At Work &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Weekly project management news roundup: The PMP debate; The value of PMP certification, To get certified or not to get certified, and other interesting posts</title>
		<link>http://edge.papercutpm.com/is-the-pmp-losing-its-value/comment-page-1/#comment-866</link>
		<dc:creator>Project Management At Work &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Weekly project management news roundup: The PMP debate; The value of PMP certification, To get certified or not to get certified, and other interesting posts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 23:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  &#8220;Is the PMP Losing Value?&#8221; - Papercut Edge I came across a couple pieces, one by Kareem Shaker and another by Derek Huether. They echoed some of my own sentiments about the real value of the PMI‘s PMP credential. I know first hand some PMP-holders who have no business running a project. They’ve passed the PMI’s test (which isn’t difficult for an experienced PM), and handed in application forms that were so light on detail they should have been flagged by the most perfunctory of glances. Click here to continue reading [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  &#8220;Is the PMP Losing Value?&#8221; &#8211; Papercut Edge I came across a couple pieces, one by Kareem Shaker and another by Derek Huether. They echoed some of my own sentiments about the real value of the PMI‘s PMP credential. I know first hand some PMP-holders who have no business running a project. They’ve passed the PMI’s test (which isn’t difficult for an experienced PM), and handed in application forms that were so light on detail they should have been flagged by the most perfunctory of glances. Click here to continue reading [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Papercut Edge is open for contributions &#171;Papercut Edge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Papercut Edge is open for contributions &#171;Papercut Edge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] blog. I&#8217;ve been thrilled with the participation and the growing community here. My post about the value of the PMP garnered 47 comments and a ton of reactions on the web, which says to me that many of you have [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] blog. I&#8217;ve been thrilled with the participation and the growing community here. My post about the value of the PMP garnered 47 comments and a ton of reactions on the web, which says to me that many of you have [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Leonardo Nogueira</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leonardo Nogueira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have used the verification process (&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.pmi.org/CertApp/Registry.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://www.pmi.org/CertApp/Registry.aspx&lt;/a&gt;) sometimes, specially when hiring new PMs. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Despite the high volume of certifications monthly I still believe in the decision to use the credential as a relevant factor to choose between two or more candidates with even applications.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What really bothers me is the fact that many people in the profession blindly uses the certification as a &#039;talisman&#039; a sort of magical artifact that ensures good PM skills. That is not true as we know and experience in the practice of the profession.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;To hold a PMP credential is important but it is not everything. I know many excellent PMs that are not PMPs. We all value continuous self-improvement, hardworking and real practice of PM skills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have used the verification process (<a href="https://www.pmi.org/CertApp/Registry.aspx" rel="nofollow">https://www.pmi.org/CertApp/Registry.aspx</a>) sometimes, specially when hiring new PMs. </p>
<p>Despite the high volume of certifications monthly I still believe in the decision to use the credential as a relevant factor to choose between two or more candidates with even applications.</p>
<p>What really bothers me is the fact that many people in the profession blindly uses the certification as a &#39;talisman&#39; a sort of magical artifact that ensures good PM skills. That is not true as we know and experience in the practice of the profession.</p>
<p>To hold a PMP credential is important but it is not everything. I know many excellent PMs that are not PMPs. We all value continuous self-improvement, hardworking and real practice of PM skills.</p>
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		<title>By: More Papercut in the Blogosphere &#171;Papercut Edge</title>
		<link>http://edge.papercutpm.com/is-the-pmp-losing-its-value/comment-page-1/#comment-555</link>
		<dc:creator>More Papercut in the Blogosphere &#171;Papercut Edge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at CIOZone, Ty Kiisel referenced my recent article, &#8220;Is the PMP Losing It&#8217;s Value&#8220;. In his article, he challenges the PMI to &#8220;publicly demonstrate how their [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] at CIOZone, Ty Kiisel referenced my recent article, &#8220;Is the PMP Losing It&#8217;s Value&#8220;. In his article, he challenges the PMI to &#8220;publicly demonstrate how their [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Crane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff Crane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 08:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a great resource, Derek, thanks for that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#39;s a great resource, Derek, thanks for that!</p>
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		<title>By: derekhuether</title>
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		<dc:creator>derekhuether</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 07:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think I would necessarily go to PMI and complain.  But, I have had people lie about being PMPs and had to fire them.  One very easy way to verify:  &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.pmi.org/CertApp/Registry.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://www.pmi.org/CertApp/Registry.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I use it every time we get an applicant claiming to be a PMP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t think I would necessarily go to PMI and complain.  But, I have had people lie about being PMPs and had to fire them.  One very easy way to verify:  <a href="https://www.pmi.org/CertApp/Registry.aspx" rel="nofollow">https://www.pmi.org/CertApp/Registry.aspx</a></p>
<p>I use it every time we get an applicant claiming to be a PMP.</p>
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